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Old 01-16-2007, 08:54 PM
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I read an article saying that it is better to feed deer soybeans than corn from feeders. They cautioned that you could sicken or even kill deer during the winter stress months if they don't have this quality feed to start with. Anyone have any info on the reality of this? I use feeding to get pictures of deer/ bear during the winter months and don't put out much feed, just enough to draw game on a daily basis.

Also, will soybeans be as appealing to coons and squirrels? They have taken over and waste a lot of space on my memory cards. I'm trying to deter coons and squirrels with the switch, will it help?
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:59 PM
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I can't help you on your squirrel or coon problem, but as to the soybeans, they are more nutritous than corn. I totally agree with you 100%. I never thought about it though, but do agree with you. Corn has a low nutrient content, unlike beans and peas. Corn can disturb and damage the digestive tract if eaten too much, unlike beans and peas. Beans in a feeder is a great idea. I don't think it would be as attractive to the deer as corn, but they will eat it once they realize that beans taste just as good as corn.Hunt those squirrels and coons down man. Good Luck.
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:09 PM
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Many farm stores around here sell "Soybeans for Deer Feeders" because its way better for them in the summer as well. Coons do not seem to bother it, nor do bear. Thats one advantage down here is the bear will tear a feeder down for corn but will not eat the soybean. The problem with soybean is $11 a bag . This year I don't think I filled a feeder with corn, or anthing, they just hung empty since I had more food plots and the improved natural forage from this springs thinning.
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:06 AM
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I'm not much into grain feeding for deer, but I'll nit pick you guys a little bit on the nutrition stuff anyway. (sorry)

Beans and peas will also make deer sick if they eat too much. In fact I think it would take more corn to make a deer sick than soybeans...the beans are 20% fat which is 3x or 4x more than the rumen bacteria can handle safely. The good news is that deer have such a varied diet that they are unlikely to overeat one thing unless they are really hungry for some reason (such as in Northern winter deer yards).

Corn has a very high content of digestible nutrients, jamar; that is why US farmers grow 10.5 billion bushels of it every year! It is very high in starch but lower in protein and minerals and fat as compared to peas and beans. Just different nutrients.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:12 AM
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Here is a pretty good article on feeding soybean. It also covers the concern of deer being killed due to high protein feeds the bacteria can't digest. I can see this being a problem even with Soybeans in the north.

http://www.deerhunters.net/articles/nutrition.htm


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Old 01-17-2007, 10:15 AM
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I don't do grain feeding on my property, but have given it considerable thought the last few years. After reading lots of info on the subject, I had decided if I ever did do it I would use the spin type feeders so that I could limit the amount of grain the deer could eat each day. By doing that it would help prevent the overeating problems. It would also help on the financial side. BUT, with the hog problem, feed on the ground would attract them too, and I don't want that. SO, I figured the way around that would be to use a sheltered trough with the barrel and timer under the roof, with a guard around the spinner, so that the grain would be deflected down into the trough.
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I had an animal nutrition class in college and there was a phenomenon know as Rumen Acidosis in cattle, which could occur if they were immediately switch to high carbohydrate diet (ie corn) from a non-high carbohydrate diet. This could be the toxic effect of corn you all are talking about in deer. Basically the microbes in the rumen produce acids through fermentation of carbohydrates which decreases the pH of the rumen. This inturn changes the microbial content of the rumen itself and therefore become less efficient. The rumen has a dynamic microbial content that changes throughout the year based on diet, however, a sudden change is definitely a shock to the system.

I am sure this is more common in cattle since we give them their food they eat, probably not a concern, at least I would think for deer.

And I just thought that class was for S's and G's. Never thought I would use it again.

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When I have fed soybeans through feeders, I found that I had to start with a 80% corn 20% soybean mix to get the deer to eat the soybeans. As time went on I would decrease the corn and increase the soybeans until I fed 80% soybeans and 20% corn. For some reason, my deer just would not eat straight soybeans from the beginning. The main reason I quit feeding soybeans was because of hogs and coons. I know some of you said coons would not eat soybeans, but I had different results. Coons on my place will eat anything. Just seemed like a waste for me to spend all that $$$$ to fatten up hogs and coons.

This spring I am going to start feeding supplements, but I am going to use trough feeders with a 25x25 3' high fence built around them to keep the hogs out.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:25 AM
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Thanks for all the info. I'll try to post some pictures I've been getting. The coons have pretty much taken over the night time feeding. This is when I would get all my pictures of deer. I have a picture where a coon is actually running off a bear. I suppose the bear was in and out of hibernation and was too lazy to fight back. Ok, so how do I put a picture on here?
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