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Old 10-19-2009, 10:30 AM
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Just have a general question for you all.

If you owned property that boarders state land, and someone shot a deer on the state land, would you allow them to track it if it entered your private property, or would you discourage hunters from hunting the state land knowing if they shot one you would absolutely not let them go after it, ie: State land on top of hill, private land on bottom, any buck/deer shot would run downhill (most likely)...

Pretend this person asked you respectfully. Let me know your thoughts!!
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If I was a landowner I would allow them to go get their deer as long as they came to me for permission to do so and hell I would even help them look for the deer.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:03 AM
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if they came and asked with some respect i would let them get their deer for sure.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:46 AM
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I would do the same. I wouldnt necessarily like it if they were hunting 10 yards from the line though, and express my discontent if it becomes a pattern.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:50 AM
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I agree. Like the previous poster said, I wouldn't like it if they were hunting on/near the property line, but I'd let them get their deer. I don't want a deer that someone else shot.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:32 PM
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If they came and told me the situation....sure I would let them go get it. Why prevent them from recovering a legally shot deer.

If I was in a suspicious mood I might invite myself along to help them get it....and gauge their reaction to that. If I got a bad vibe from that I might continue the conversation and try to get them to give away the location of the shot and location of their stand.

If they start stammerin when I invite myself along for the recovery....well then you can pretty much assume they are lyin about where it was shot
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:54 PM
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I would want to see the blood. I have caught a few guys tresspassing that were "tracking a deer they shot" but can never show me the blood trail.
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I would and I would accompany them. No sense in not letting someone get their game, but I want to make sure it is done quietly and with as little intrusion as possible to my property, especially sanctuaries!
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:22 PM
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There is State land on two sides of my property. A 662 foot of road frontage with State land across the road, and a 2760 foot northern boundary with State land.

There is virtually no bow hunting on the State land, or on any of the private parcels around my place. Therefore, there is very little tracking done by any of the hunters within a mile radius of my property.

There are several rifle hunters who regularly hunt on the State land. None of them hunt near the property line. Since they are all respectful of the property line, I would not have a problem with any of them tracking a deer as long as their was a visible blood trail. Since buying my place in 2000, none of the hunters from the State land, or the private land on the other two sides, have ever had to track a deer onto my place.
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I haven't read any responses but I am going to wager a guess that everyone's response is going to be very similar to mine:

ABSOLUTELY!

How could you ever deny someone like the chance to look for their deer? I might make them wait until after dark or something.
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Sure , why not?
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I have a mile footage on state land. Legally, they don't have to ask. As long as they leave their weapon on the state land, in this state you can pursue wounded game on another property without permission.

I wouldn't have any problem if they asked, that would be even better and as others said, would like to tag along and help.

I have had two cases where individuals on the state land, crossed the line with weapon in hand. Not in pursuit of wounded game, but in pursuit of deer in one case, a turkey in the other that they could see from the state land. They believed it wasn't a big deal.

If its on the up and up, would gladly allow it.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:20 PM
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Legally, they don't have to ask. As long as they leave their weapon on the state land, in this state you can pursue wounded game on another property without permission.
In Michigan it is just the opposite. A deer can die 10 feet across the line, and you could not legally retrieve the deer without the permission of the landowner. Also, the landowner could not legally take possession of the deer because he did not kill it. By law it would have to lay there and rot.
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Thanks all who responded.
The reason I ask is becuase I shot a really nice buck (125-130 range) on top of some state land on Sunday morning, and it ran down a really steep slope into private land.
I've never hunted much on state land becuase we own private land, but while hiking in the summer with my wife I really found a spot that I liked, so I gave it a try.

The first thing I did was call the NYS DEC and ask what my rights were. The officer told me I had no rights, and that the land owner did not have to let me on his property to recover my deer.
I stopped by the land owner's house and asked permission. He was very nice and invited me in for a beer. Apparently he shot the buck after I did. He said it ran straight down to him and he shot it in the front shoulder. He has not recovered this deer yet, as he told me he ran out of blood soon after he took up the trail.
My shot was a quartering away shot. I hit the deer a little back, but felt confident about the shot, as I was aiming at the far shoulder.

I am super dissapointed as this would have been my largest buck to date with a bow. Not sure I can do much more. I'v obtained permission from some of the neighboring properties to search. I looked 2+ hours today after work, with no luck... I will be back at it tomorrow, but am running out of time...
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We have property that borders state game land's and it's not usually a problem as nobody hunt's close to their anyway. It sounds like WWIII over there some day's, or use to. I think only 3 time's in 10 year's have i found a gut pile and blood trail leading from the game land's.

In PA we have the right to recover them so we just let it go since it's kind of a remote piece of land. It would be hard to find the house to get permission anyhow and really all we need to do is call the game warden and he'll escort anyone onto any property to recover legal game. They have better right's to property than our state police do ! They don't need a warrant to access ANY property,, including your house.....

Good luck in finding it but it sound's like he might have already or someone else did and just aren't saying anything ?
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Thanks all who responded.
The reason I ask is becuase I shot a really nice buck (125-130 range) on top of some state land on Sunday morning, and it ran down a really steep slope into private land.
I've never hunted much on state land becuase we own private land, but while hiking in the summer with my wife I really found a spot that I liked, so I gave it a try.

The first thing I did was call the NYS DEC and ask what my rights were. The officer told me I had no rights, and that the land owner did not have to let me on his property to recover my deer.
I stopped by the land owner's house and asked permission. He was very nice and invited me in for a beer. Apparently he shot the buck after I did. He said it ran straight down to him and he shot it in the front shoulder. He has not recovered this deer yet, as he told me he ran out of blood soon after he took up the trail.
My shot was a quartering away shot. I hit the deer a little back, but felt confident about the shot, as I was aiming at the far shoulder.

I am super dissapointed as this would have been my largest buck to date with a bow. Not sure I can do much more. I'v obtained permission from some of the neighboring properties to search. I looked 2+ hours today after work, with no luck... I will be back at it tomorrow, but am running out of time...

eh?
that doesn't sound right at all

you made what you thought was a decent quartering away shot
then he shoots it again in the front shoulders
and nobody finds the deer???

how far would you guess it had to have run before he shot it?

I call BS. I bet he already has the deer and is just BS'n ya.
I bet it ran down in front of him and fell dead and he took it.
I am surprised the blood trail didn't lead to a gutpile.

How was the blood trail btw?
With at least 2 holes in it...and maybe 4 holes from 2 different well placed arrows I fail to see how there wasn't a good bloodtrail and quick recovery.

Anyway thats just my own pessimistic opinion haha
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Knobby,
I hear you. I only tracked the deer to the boarder of his property.
Once he told me he also shot the deer, on his property, it really becomes his. (I am 50-50 on if I belive him, or not) When I went to his house, I noticed his bow laying on his work bench in his garage with one arrow missing?? It was not left in plain sight either. Who knows?

-Like I said before, I have permission to search the neighbors property, and will be looking again today after work. I hope to find it. He did call me yesterday to let me know he did not find the deer, but found a bed with some blood. He thinks he jumped it.
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If they came and told me the situation....sure I would let them go get it. Why prevent them from recovering a legally shot deer.

If I was in a suspicious mood I might invite myself along to help them get it....and gauge their reaction to that. If I got a bad vibe from that I might continue the conversation and try to get them to give away the location of the shot and location of their stand.

If they start stammerin when I invite myself along for the recovery....well then you can pretty much assume they are lyin about where it was shot

I agree! That would give you a pretty good idea if they are tellin the truth or not.
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Knobby,
I hear you. I only tracked the deer to the boarder of his property.
Once he told me he also shot the deer, on his property, it really becomes his. (I am 50-50 on if I belive him, or not) When I went to his house, I noticed his bow laying on his work bench in his garage with one arrow missing?? It was not left in plain sight either. Who knows?

-Like I said before, I have permission to search the neighbors property, and will be looking again today after work. I hope to find it. He did call me yesterday to let me know he did not find the deer, but found a bed with some blood. He thinks he jumped it.

I know

I would just hate to spend several days looking for a non existent deer.
But at this point what choice do ya have....

My money still says he already has the deer and has had since right after you shot it.

Check the local Taxidermists if you think you would recognize it. Not that theres any hope in getting it or point in trying to. But if you found it and could get the persons name that brought it in....atleast you would know for sure hes been feeding you a line of bull. And you would know what to expect of him in the future.

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I believe in a good search. I have found deer after 3 days before. Since he is claiming contact I can't help believe it died on his property. Agree with looking at local processor or taxidermists. Have him show you where it was and went so you know where to look. I bet ya he either came up on it and put an arrow in it for claims purposes or just took it to processor.

Either way I kind of agree it is gone from your possession. Go visit him in a year and see if you recognize it over the mantle. Things happen What are ya gonna do. Get back up on the mtn.

Good Luck maybe there is a better one out there.
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