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Am getting more and more impressed with the BEC's each day, they're the real deal. Seem really well made and pictures are of good quality. Half the battle is getting your cams setup in the right position. NY Plotter shared with me the 15% discount. I checked with BEC and their discount runs to April 30th. That's a pretty good deal. I'm thinking perhaps it's to compete with the likes of Reconyx.

BEC's X7D is $699, but with the 15% discount, that puts the cam at $595 comparable to Reconyx's HC600 at $550 or thereabouts.

I'd highly rec'd anyone considering any taking the plunge for a higher quality cam like Reconyx or BEC to consider BEC, since even if you don't want to go wireless yet, at least you can with the X7D which can act as wireless or non wireless.

According to last year when I talked with Reconyx they were coming out with a wireless version but it would require a cell plan per camera...ouch!

Here's a pic of a small kill plot nestled in the woods. For those of you not up to speed on the X7D or BECs, you can actually take a live picture of any image in front of your camera anytime with the touch of a click. Otherwise, the camera takes pics as it detects motion.

Sign up for the BEC email club on the website it gives you 5% off anytime. So with the current 15% special you can add them together. Ordered about 3k with BEC products and everything 20% off to my knowledge. Can't wait to get them out and start playing around.
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Well...I'm rethinking this a bit...

My plan was to buy another 13db yagi and add it to my base antenna mast. I probably won't get that new mast in place until after spring gobbler season. I have two Orions in the middle of my property that act as repeaters for further out cameras. They have high gain omnidirectional antennas mounted on about 30' and 40' masts respectively. I recently upgraded the power system on one of them with a 45 watt solar panel. It can now handle all of my terminal Orion cameras. So, I figured that I would pull the Orion from the second antenna mast and replace it with a new X7D. I could then use it as a repeater and place X7Ds in proximity to this repeater and base, and move the Orions to more distant locations.

I think this is still a sound long-term plan, but here is the part I'm rethinking:

Instead of waiting until I have the base antenna mast upgraded with the new antenna, I think I'm going to order and X7D now. As it turns out, we just got a contract signed with a logging company to thin our pines and clear cut some hardwoods. So, I have one Orion just a few yards from my PC base, monitoring our gate. This will let me monitor all the truck loads that leave the property to make sure nothing gets "lost' on the way to the mill.

I can use the X7D for this without waiting for the mast upgrade freeing that Orion for other use.

I think I'll call tomorrow!
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:45 AM
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Well, I pulled the trigger. Unfortunately, they have been slammed with orders and they won't have the PC base for a bit.
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Jack, good luck with your new cameras and congrats on the purchase.

Scrim, I am sure thats not what you want to see but the cameras are doing their job.
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Caught this deer on cam feeding in a small plot; little did I know it was there until I checked my email that the BEC sent me the pic of, while I was only 100 yards away planting some trees. Guess it wasn't bothered by me.

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Nice pics!

Do you have any recommendations on whether a guy should purchase X7D solar panels from BEC or are they cheaper and easier to come by at other online/retail centers? As long as the quality is good, and the price is right!

I understand that the ends/connections will need to be adapted to the box and so on...

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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The real key is checking the specifications. The Chinese are making inexpensive panels that are spatially inefficient. If you can afford the space, they will work fine. You can also find panels about the same size that will put out lower amperage. That means you need more hours of sun to get equal charging. I don't have any experience with the new 12-volt BEC panels, but I could not find any 6-volt panels for my Orions with equivalent specs that I could get for much cheaper when I factored in connector costs and such.

If you are new at this, I would suggest buying your first panel from BEC. If you decided to experiment after that, you will have a good basis for comparison. Otherwise, you may blame the camera for some issue with the panel.

Having said that, I've used other panels with success for specific applications. Thread shows how I used a set of low cost Chinese Harbor Freight solar panels to proved power for a very heavily used repeater camera: http://www.qrgc-forums.org/QRGC_Foru...l-Cameras.aspx This is a 45 watt system that takes a lot of space. (That is about 3x the output of the X7D BEC panels). In my case I had the space. Even with the efficiency loss of going from 12-volts to my 6-volt Orion series (not necessary for the X7D) it provides plenty of power for the job.

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Old 04-01-2012, 03:58 PM
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Thanks for the comment. I did order one X7D solar unit and will figure out an approach after putting one to use and then comparing. Everything in my order has shipped from BEC, except the solar panel. Evidently, BEC is backordered on the X7d solar panels for the time being.
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Surprise, surprise...Not only did my camera arrive today, but the base-station which they said was back-ordered arrived as well!



I plan to pick up a battery tonight!

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Wow that is a lot of cash and from my prospective not very good picture quailty.
Loos like you like it and that is the bottom line.
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:40 PM
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The picture quality is adequate, but not in the same class with a homebrew. From a cost perspective they are much less expensive in the long run than most commercial units. I'm paying for the reliability and the advantages of wireless.

I'm pretty confident after running 11 BEC Orions for years 24/7/365 without a single camera failure, however, I this is my first X7D. Hopefully the reliability will be just as good.
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Well folks, I ran into my first glitch with my X7D plan. I had hoped to start out by placing the camera at my camp, close to the base to monitor logger traffic. My plan was to simply take the charger, snip off the alligator clips, and replace it with the connector BEC uses to power the camera.

As it turns out, these are unusual Chinese connectors. I'm presuming the externals were farmed out, but who knows. These connectors are produced by a company in Hong Kong called Chogori. I was able to find the part numbers, but I can't seem to find any distributor in the US. The manufacturer of course only sells them in lots of 500.

Quite frustrating.
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Very interesting yoderj...and happy for you w/ the nice package from BEC

Since BEC announced today the X7D cell base is now available for shipping, I may be going this direction and eliminating the need for a computer base and internet connection at my farm.

Anybody else going with the X7D cell base with Verizon? I'm wondering if I can only pay the $50.00 (estimate) monthly data fee for unlimited pics/cams July through December and suspend service the remainder of the year. I'll have to check with Verizon and/or BEC.

I'm also considering the LiveCam registration so I can view the pics anytime, anywhere as well as check battery levels, change settings etc. regardless of where I am. And of course, place one cam to monitor traffic at my lodge. Spendy yes, but priceless ...
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If you can get DSL or better at your farm and have power available, the pc base is a better bet. This will be less expensive than the cellphone bill. Even if they are the same cost, you will be able to use the computer and Internet service for other things besides controlling the cameras and getting pictures. There are free tools available that give you all the control necessary to do everything the cell base can do.

Also keep in mind most Verizon data packages have data limits and generally broadband Internet does not. This wont' be an issue for the first few cameras, but as you build out a camera network it may depending on how you setup and program your cameras.

The cell base works best for folks who have no power or shelter for a PC on their property.

Having said all that, if you get one, be sure to let us know how it works out!

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What batteries are you guys using? I bought my X7D without a battery so they didn't have to ship that heavy thing. I stopped at Batteries Plus tonight. The largest 12-volt battery I could find that fits the battery box provided is 9 ah. Is that what everyone else is using?
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What batteries are you guys using? I bought my X7D without a battery so they didn't have to ship that heavy thing. I stopped at Batteries Plus tonight. The largest 12-volt battery I could find that fits the battery box provided is 9 ah. Is that what everyone else is using?

UB1270 / P is what shipped from BEC with my first few cams. Since then, i have bought 3 additional batteries with same specs by Genesis... 12v 7.0Ah 84Whr, 6 cell

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190628699672...ht_4152wt_1217

For about 25 bucks shipped via eBay, not bad imo...
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If you can get DSL or better at your farm and have power available, the pc base is a better bet. This will be less expensive than the cellphone bill. Even if they are the same cost, you will be able to use the computer and Internet service for other things besides controlling the cameras and getting pictures. There are free tools available that give you all the control necessary to do everything the cell base can do.

Also keep in mind most Verizon data packages have data limits and generally broadband Internet does not. This wont' be an issue for the first few cameras, but as you build out a camera network it may depending on how you setup and program your cameras.

The cell base works best for folks who have no power or shelter for a PC on their property.

Having said all that, if you get one, be sure to let us know how it works out!

Thanks,

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Thanks Jack, I keep going back and forth on this but your probably right. In the end, I will have more control and do not have to complicate things by involving Verizon!
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