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teneyckd2002
10-02-2006, 01:22 PM
Hi Guys,
I posted this picture under the Antler Watch portion, and some were wondering the age. I think he is 1.5, others thought 2.5? Any thoughts?

http://www.hunt101.com/img/438296.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=438296&c=500&z=1)

http://www.hunt101.com/img/438269.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=438269&c=500&z=1)

foothillshabita
10-02-2006, 01:30 PM
Definitely 2.5 . I cant take credit for the formula, but you will 'never' -(96% of the time)
see a 1.5 get his main beam forward of the eye. Only way to know for 'certain' is to ground check him. 1.5 would have the tip of the main beam where this guy's G-3 is.

Check this against some mounts that have been aged and you will be amazed by these observations. ( 3.5 is 1/2 way between the eye and nose, 4.5 is at the nose. )

foothillshabita
10-02-2006, 01:31 PM
and, hey, this is Wayne Masters formula. Nice photo.

teneyckd2002
10-02-2006, 01:42 PM
I know Wayne, and will take your word for it!!

foothillshabita
10-02-2006, 02:43 PM
Wayne has alot of solid information. Waiting for the 14th....

foothillshabita
10-02-2006, 02:53 PM
I have seen other bucks just like this in Herkimer Co. Close to where you are ?

teneyckd2002
10-02-2006, 03:29 PM
I am in Southern Onondaga Couty. A small town by the name of Fabius, NY!

kodiakswitchback
10-02-2006, 04:18 PM
2.5 yr old Denis

Dutch
10-02-2006, 05:22 PM
In 2000, I killed a buck very similar to this one in Tioga County, PA on farmland. I thought for sure it was a 2.5 yo buck. BUT, the teeth didn't lie. It was 1.5. On another property where we age the deer, the avg 1.5 yo is 13 inches wide, 7 pts and about 135 lbs. This, again on ag soils.

Good food and mild winters will make a difference in antler growth. In the NE, with the good mast crop last fall, a mild winter, an early green up, and farm soils this buck could easily be 1.5 yo.

teneyckd2002
10-02-2006, 07:23 PM
Dutch,
I went to Mansfield Univ. in Tioga County, and killed two bucks that were 8 points 13" wide. I thought for sure they were 2.5, but the wildlife biologist that hunts on our farm in NY confimed via jaw bone they were both 1.5 er's....

totouchantler
10-02-2006, 07:38 PM
I put him at 2.5 as well. He has great color. The spread and mass indicate 2.5 to me.....but I think the tell all is the body size of that buck.......his shoulders are very robust....good luck.....by the way will you take himChris

wolc123
10-02-2006, 07:39 PM
I would guess you are in an agricultural area with a deer herd well below the carrying capacity. If this is true then without doubt that is a 1.5 year old. An average 2.5 year old from such an area would have an antler base diameter about double that shown in your pictures.

totouchantler
10-02-2006, 07:49 PM
wolc123,
I dont' think I understand your formula.....if that deer is from an agricultural area and a member of a herd that is below the carrying capacity then would'nt he be big? A 2.5 with double the mass as the one in the pic is a big boy?! I guess I just don't understand why you say the deer must be from an area that is below carrying capacity....what evidence...from the picture...suggests this?
Chris

teneyckd2002
10-02-2006, 07:56 PM
Guys,
Thanks for the replies. Hopefully, I will get a better look at him October 14th or after... Our qdma goals are 2.5 and above. He would fall on the boarder of what we are looking for, but if he is in fact 2.5, yes he will be eligible for harvest. I would be happy to shoot this deer in our area.

By the way, we are in an agriculture area, and we are right on the carrying capacity of our land according to the wildlife biologist that hunts with us...

farmland QDM
10-02-2006, 08:10 PM
I have not seen many bucks from NY but that deer does look like a 2.5 in the body ... but the head and rack looks more like a 1.5 year old ... in my opinion.

Deanmac
10-02-2006, 08:13 PM
I vote 2.5 due to the mass and body size.

critter gitter
10-02-2006, 08:21 PM
I would say 2.5yr old

JPH
10-03-2006, 12:38 PM
I vote 2.5 based on the length of his main beam and the size of his chest.