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bhanks55
07-04-2010, 03:53 PM
This plant has overtaken sections of one of my clover/chicory fields. I "think" it is a type of lespedeza. Anybody know for sure?
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc253/bhanks55/0702101547.jpg

bhanks55
07-04-2010, 04:00 PM
This is the main portion of the plot. Considering what it started as 3 years ago(cedar thicket) it is doing pretty good. I do have a sedge issue. Already sprayed twice this year with basagran. Looks much better. Needs mowing, but waiting on rain or maybe fall...
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc253/bhanks55/0702101546.jpg

bhanks55
07-04-2010, 04:02 PM
You can see where I am still expanding and have cedars to take out and some still to burn from this winter. To give scale. It is 70 yards to the large trees in the back to the small cedars in the foreground.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc253/bhanks55/0702101548.jpg

dgallow
07-04-2010, 05:33 PM
It does look like a lespedeza but the leaflets are a bit large...les proliferates in poor soil even where cedars thrive. Don't think it is the striate (Kobe) variety which is low growing and prostrate. More likely Korean or young serecia. Les blooms in very late summer and the blooms will be tiny purple specs (with emphasis on tiny) in the leaf axles. Striate will have nurmerous flowers with one at each leaf axle along the stem. Flowers on korean are more localized to terminal growth points on each stem. There are some subtle leaf hair differences between Kobe and Korean too. Serecia will get 2-3' tall with a woody stem...hard to mistake it....if it's in that area there will be some mature plants along your undisturbed plot borders.

bhanks55
07-04-2010, 10:03 PM
Definitely not serecia. I am VERY familiar with that plant, unfortunately:mad: . Now that you say it, there is some korean lespedeza I found on the right side of the plot in the second pic.

Ohio Darin
07-04-2010, 10:47 PM
Looks like birdsfoot trefoil to me.

bhanks55
07-04-2010, 10:59 PM
its all in the newly cleared areas. Also starting to encroach on the original plot some now as well. 24DB wont touch it.

dgallow
07-04-2010, 11:30 PM
If it is BFT, you will have neat yellow flowers any day now and the leaves are larger than les, but I think BFT has a tendancy to form runners. LC has some good pics of BFT released by a herb spraying in his tree threads.

Ohio Darin
07-05-2010, 12:03 AM
Could be Korean Les after second look at the stems. At least its not Sericea - I'm dealing with that myself.

DeltaDog
07-05-2010, 12:42 AM
Hmmm.... I planted a strip of chicory last year, but the deer mowed it pretty quickly. There's a bit left, here and there, but it is mostly gone. There is, however, a LOT of something that looks kinda like that, right where I planted the chicory. IF it is BFT, how long will the yellow flowers last, to aid in identification? Thinking maybe I should just leave it?

smsmith
07-05-2010, 08:35 AM
If it's BFT - it generally blooms all summer. It's been blooming here for a few weeks and will continue to bloom through Sept. or thereabouts.

bhanks55
07-05-2010, 02:22 PM
Could be Korean Les after second look at the stems. At least its not Sericea - I'm dealing with that myself.

Yup. Just mixed up 2 gallons of pasturegard and sprayed a bunch of that stuff around the farm. Always battling it, but I have most of it under control around my plots at least.

HabitatMD
07-05-2010, 05:10 PM
Its an annual lespedeza of some sort, whether you want to call it annual or korean or whatever. I wouldn't worry about it. Once the clover gets kicking, it will subside. Mowing should help as well.

BFT is the small yellow flowers you will see all along the interstates right now. Been in bloom for maybe a month or so. It isn't BFT.

HabitatMaker
07-05-2010, 05:11 PM
It is common lespedeza

Jeager
07-05-2010, 06:04 PM
Japanese Clover, a.k.a Common Lespedeza.....:D